Monday, April 29, 2013

666 Gangstaz Full Interview

Please start off with a brief synopsis on the history of 666gangstaz.
The name was spat up, as seen, straight from my subconscious- a piss take on the painfully overused  90s band name formula [number]+[word] = arbitrary bullshit that sounds name rolls off the tongue very awkwardly, and is deeply meaningful... first take at face value  and envision an Ice Cube in blue and purple Hoodoo warpaint, in much more macabre and gothic  stylings- gangsta-rap culture giving a true and spiritual embrace to the Satanic nature of it's obsession with death and violence, materialist decadence and  hedonism of poetic extremity, and self empowerment to a god like influence by wielding soul  enslaving alchemical substances... (ha ha the true power of rap is it's poetry) but my relationship  to the number is with it it's true, Occult meanings... almost all figures and events in the modern  christian mythos are perversions for more disgusting than outright lies, or ridiculous faerie tales  interpreted into justification of any base, human whim- they are violent inversion of the gods and  practices of the pagans and all the cultures they have demolished and subjugated on the path total  world domination. satan as the snake in the garden is the demonifaction of the primal feminine  energy- the yin,  denying, at humanities point of inception the sacredness of nature, and life- itself's inherent duality. Satan materialized as a horned devil is the inversion of Pan and  Cerrnunos, the horned god, benevolent patron of the daylight and animal kingdom, by worshiped pretty  back to humanities cave dwelling days. i personally connect to the Lucerfarian angle, the fallen  angel myth are of couse the story of Prometheus- I am trying to bring a chainsaw of light and knowledge to humanity so that we may severe the shackles  binding our spirit- this will happen though the realization of our dark, inhuman, animal natures-  Satan is real as fuck, he dwells INSIDE the human heart. accepting that is the only way to ensure we  are benevolent in our live. so the spirit of the project is to be a dark destructive force for us,  fire to burn away the badness. my favorite sentiment, and this is likely inaccurate in bible  numerology or Cabala, is that "6 is the number of man, and 3, 33, 333, are the numbers of god, so  666 is the number of a man making himself a god. the 666gangstaz project evolved, bucking and  clawing along with bleeding edge (and common availability) i have cassettes from the early 90's of  primitive ambient, techno and even jungle tracks that were made with the first primitive wave editors  on the earliest of the windows PC's. ha ha the sounds i worked with were 8-bt 22kHz mono .wavs and a 3  minute track would filling the entire harddrive, puzzling and infuriating my folks. once the laptop  renaissance happened and we got the first proper softsynths (rebirth, rubberduck) and sample  sequencing studios, and effect plugging (directx for cooledit) it was on. a sat down with Jeskola  Buzz (still one of the best read the 10 min how to, pumped out an ill  techno track (which i still have), and quite a lot of the tracks i finished (except for the first cd  ) have always been online at Play (noiseusse co-founder) and i were making all  manner of stuff, click n cuts, techno, weird house, breakbeat, and IDM Hardcore and Breakcore,  before we had ever really heard much HC/BC, i didn't stumble on the term 'breakcore' or the net  scene until a few week before i moved to cali in 2003 (big ups to widerstand and c8) we were booking  shops and tragging our desktop to clubs and and bars in ann arbor, and it was COMPLETELY mind  boggling to the public at large, they had never seen or heard much electronic music at all, and we  we playing some really out there shit even by today's standards, ha ha ha....
what are your feelings about free tekno?
Free Tekno is a much faster (150 - 180bpm) and bouncier style of techno, very trippy and some of it  works it's self up to basically being hardcore.  the were some french free tekno kidz staying with  us at the 5lowershop wherehouse ,  one of them was dj-ing and i was like "i know this track, i have  this record, you guys are just playing techno records on 45!" and they said " if its not on 45, it's  no techno man" but it's more than that , Free Tekno it is a a lifestyle, a philosophy... for  a more   in depth look into it check out the Spiral Tribe wiki... the name "free" comes a hardcore DIY, grass  roots,  i guess "anarcho-socialist" ethic- throwing FREE parties, usually out doors in cali we call  the them 'renegades our brethren on the eastcoast call them out 'outlaws' in the city we'd do  'break-ins' in europe the movement is so big the have tons of free outdoor festivals ,"Teknovals" a  bunch of crews bring huge soundsystems out in the middle of nowhere (very commonly with school  busses, because of their availability) setup shop and  party for a weekend, a week or however long  the supply of of drugs and fuel for the generators last.  we have one here annually called the  Autonomous Mutant Festival, it happen in varying locations in the  pacific northwest, from northern  cali up to washington. always in a completely different location, so as not to destroy to the local  ecosystem, this is important because we do AMF in lush, beautiful forests, where are connecting to  nature -this is in direct ideological opposition to burning man- we leave the city to connect with  nature, as opposed to a lifeless and brutal environment which can accommodate grandiose and frivolous  displays of america's wealth of energy resources. our festivals are free, based on autonomy and  communal sharing where as burning man is commercialism consumerism and political social structure  (ticket are incredibly expensive and the money goes to for instance their own police force ha ha) we  always find a place with large stream, so people can keep clean and cool, build water filter so we  can use the water,  people i know have had one working yet but there are lots of attempts to covert  industrial generator to run on straight veg (filtered scavenged vegetable oil) most people's buses  run on veg. some of my friends trying to get a grant to build green (or at least sustainable)  generators for burning man- they were modified to run on some algae product they have the tech, and  the infra structure to create the machines and the fuel, do it up- burning man wasn't interested,  they gave them 500$ to bring one ... (haha why am i ranting about BM? i guess it's to illustrate  what free techno in not :) ) but that idea- a festival run on algae generators- THAT is fee  techno... ha ha while i'm at it, S.P.A.Z. (sister crew of 5lowershop et al, who i proudly claim  association to) was the first soundsystem to show about at burning man, back at the beginning... now how they do it in europe that varies of course, i've heard and i'm assuming how most of those  crews get thecaptial to power the cycle is just  straight up selling drugs. which makes perfect  sense, you bring the drugs as well as the party ha ha.. we do this to but in much less of a direct  sense, whether we are more cautious or more timid, we aren't the one distributing pills and what now  to the public en mass, at our parties, but a good deal of the people in our network on the westcoast   make a living growing or seasonally trimming green- so ost of us exist off the grid, in the shadow  economy , the under ground... Freetekno is very political, non-violent, anti-war, anti-big brother,  for community autonomy and equality, for environmental protection, ANTI-RACIST this isn't such a big  deal in the states but in europe there's a huge plague of neo-nazism in the electronic scene,  particularly with hardcore/gabber :( yep... there are tons of huge nazi hardcore raves (makes me  shudder). when the love parade move from berlin to san fransisco we, of course, imported Fuck  Parade!!  now the first year we did it while we were promoting for it online the people doing fuck  parade in berlin notice and some how got the phone number at the 5lowershop where house, called  international.... and miraculously the phone got answered and someone who could speak for our crew was  put on the line... they wanted to make sure we weren't nazis (! :) ) ... we're like oh fuck no!! an  were give their official blessing. in 5lowershops earlier days they did a lot of political activism,  some of them went to iraq as human shields, which is pretty HC, and bringing soundsystems to street  protests, which is super fun!!, breakcore never sounds better than when yr facing down a wall of  riot gear clad cops, but you got to come up with a portable equipment setup that you'd be willing to  lose, bike soundsystem is a very powerful weapon in those type of scenarios it a great way to direct  (and accumulate and catalyze) a giant mob. there's a great spiral tribe dvd about a crew of them driving some box trucks fullup with a shit ton  books, of every kind, from france all the way into africa into some impoverished city, they hung with  the people there and made music with the local drummers, and threw and huge dance party centered on  the performance collaborating with a bunch of the drummers, dancers and other local performers,  there's vinyl a CD and a dvd from that venture. that's FreeTekno.
how did 5lowershop influence you?
they were my introduction to soundsystem culture, mutant culture, urban sustainability, a slew of  new sounds and aesthetics, and the total awesomeness of school busses. i moved to cali in the  beginning of 2003, knowing only 2 people. i knew from them, and every anecdote i had heard  that the  bay area is where i belonged, along with any kind of freak, artist, stoner and queer. it is the  american counterculture mecca. along with new york it is always at least 5 years ahead the rest of  the US in creative trends, constantly spawning the and importing them from other countries. all this  is important as context. the socially progressive regions of the west coast (and NYC in the east)  are the only places that have a "soundsystem culture". so within a  month of moving to oakland i get  my first invitation to  party. we go to SF guessing it's a metal show by the flyer. we go into the  big shady wherehouse. jaws dropped and eyes popping. i was like like this is it! exactly what i  moved out there, and more... next level shit. it evolved my music and art enormously in a couple  months, just by exposure. ha ha i totally fucked my way into the inner core of the s.p.a.z. and  5lowershop community. not generally my MO, but it happens. it was kind of bad, a gave a cd with my  to one of the performers, just being friendly. she emails me within a day, like "hey stranger..."  and i'm like awesome! i made a friend! first evening we hung out got way more than friendly... and  week later her roommate comes to look at a room, and that girl just my heart out of my eye balls and  we were getting it on within 6 hours or so... the rest is history, me and dj megabitch were in it  together for the next 5 years. not knowing anything about these kids or their relationships  a bit of  drama ensued, mostly because the lady who initially picked me up had a boyfriend. best way to get  jumped in...
how do you incorporate dj'ing and live performance together (ableton, gear)? are they separate art  forms?
well once computers got powerful enough, and people finally got working beat detection algorithms.  ableton 5, as i recall, and traktor 3... i immediately was all up in hybrid-dj/live remixing, in all possible permutations.  i'll probably end up reiterating this: djing (mostly with decks) IS a "live performance" very much  so! - to the point that it's way more "live" than 98% of the ableton sets i've ever seen, it's a  hands-on art, a science. the good stuff is highly improvisational, you have to have a mental map of  all your tracks, especially the tempos which vary ridiculously in half of the styles. sure you can  plan out your whole set ahead of time, but that can bomb, you miss the most important point- working  with the crowd, you can literally feel the energy of the dance floor- it a feedback loop- all those  people full immersed, excited,  interacting with the sounds, moods, beats and each other-  all that  energy feeds right back into you, increasing your abilities, it will lift you up to different,  higher level, you can tell exactly what the audience needs to hear ha ha play something that  alienates the vibe and you feel it right away in your bones, nasty feeling.  a  it requires a lot of  skill, people who have never tried to beatmatch would be astonished by how difficult it is. to a  non-dj its just looks like you just standing there nodding your head. it's not a theatrical  spectacle, it takes to much concentration to put on i big show of yourself (unless you a  turntablist, they tend to ignore the groove continuity. its flashy but not often imaginative, its  like a non-stop cockrock guitar solo).  and then we come to ableton which is an amazing program, with  limitless creative possibility, super intuitive. unfortunately, the most common way it's used in a  "live" setting is lazy automatic beat matching of pre-determined tracks. to get that "live" feel,  you can bang your head and grimace, jump around, spout inanities or lipsync, pretend to be fucking  up the tracks on your keyboard or controller (lol i could drop a huge list of names and offenses  from the breakcore scene but what's the point?). many prefer to just stand there staring at the  screen. some dick around with effects a little. a suprizing number just hit the space bar and pound  beer, this my favorite ableton trick-slamming down a ton of liquor and rolling spliffs. lol
what innovations would you like to see in live performance technology?
well in my dreams- a direct cybernetic link into the mind/body. we are in the happy babysteps stage  of mind controlled computers and tablets! but for performance i'd like to see and integration of  body gesture... a great simple example is the Powerglove. but extrapolate into a system to today's  resolution and flexibility, and by dancing and gesturing you would have a huge amount of potential  data with an unprecedented amount of nuance. it would take full advantage of your natural dexterity  way beyond the way traditional interfaces and instruments do. people are all ready doing all kinds  of thing in this vein but they are just super geeks experimenting. eventually we get a easy to use,  flexible and widely available system.
how do you feel about breakcore and its development?
this will sound strange to the younger, laptop generation- for me personally, laptops killed  breakcore. for me, the foundational stuff has a lot more visceral impact. was darker, grittier, and   groovier, having been a direct spawn of the darker dance styles- the creators, label like ambush,  praxis and DHR, were adepts of other styles first. the sounds were more varied, unique and focused.  a lot of it involved political activism. so that was the mid to late 90's. the past ten years the style largely becomes more and codified. silly movie sample get pretty  obligatory, as does  plunderphonic, which is both good and bad. the use of elements from any and all  other styles of music is both one of the best aspects, and also it's downfall (at least for me,  people have horrendous tastes in music). once the god awful "mashup" thing gets popular, you have  people using so much crappy pop music it's functionally just an excuse indulge your inane cheese,  made more obnoxious with adolescent sped of amens. there is great stuff, unique stuff too, don't get  wrong, but i guess for one thing i'm just burnt on hardcore/breakcore, after living in a almost  nonstop hardcore rave for 6 or 7 years, pushing the extreme factor as far it would go. i actually  got sick of the really, really chopped up stuff a long time ago, people are so obsessed with  constant glitches and edits the continuity gets totally lost, and i think you need that, and a bit  of a coherent groove for the stuff to be compelling.
who is your favorite breakcore dj?
mark n, of nasebluten/bloody fist records. he's a world champion turntablist.
how do you feel about the move away from vinyl dj'ing?
ha ha well there is no "move away from vinyl dj'ing" what you are referring to is the growth of a  whole generation of talentless morons they believe they are djs, due to the dissemination of tech  that's finally good enough make make a bunch more morons believe it.  dj means "disc-jockey", the arcane turntable and mixer setup has been reverse engineered to control  virtual decks or anything else. vinyl djing- beatmatching takes time, discipline and dedications to  learn, and style and creativity to produce something interesting. learning to beat batch is hard! at  first it's a total head fuck to learn to split your minds hearing into independent thing parts, like  a lizard's eye. through the technique you get this deep relation ship the beats, and the way dance  music works, that you won't find any other way. now that said the evolution of the tech is amazing  the new possibility are used marvelously by the creative, and while i stress the benefits or learning  the old schools ways for the sake of being a better artist, i love how the effectiveness and  availability of our current tech level, makes the medium accessible to countless people who wouldn't  have otherwise gotten into playing around with sound and music. beginners can often come up with the  coolest things.
what inspired you to produce?
i don't really remember a time before i was obsessed with music... i've always been like haunted by  the beat its was really painful waiting around for the future to get here so i could get my hands on  stuff that could make the sounds i heard and heard in my head. there were always guitars and piano  and casios around but they were forever frustrating because you can't manipulate the sound. as child  i was all about hip hop, then when i was 12 or 13 i discovered industrial, electronica, techno  jungle etc. there was really good stuff even on the pop/alt rock stations at night, being in close  proximity to detroit. on the weekends they would broadcast from the night clubs, the on the rap/soul stations this meant booty bass every thursday, friday, and saturday. listening to booty really stone  was a big influence.
outside of electronic music, what music do you like to listen to?
jazz, classical,k all manner of "world music". i hate rock  and "pop" at large. can't stand blue  grass, but there is some SUPER bad ass appalachian banjo recordings from the beginning of the 1900's,  the song banjo's and harmonies were all in these great Modal tunings called things like the "claw  hammer" and "sawmill" tunings- super dark and brooding check out Dock Boggs on Steve  Reich is amazing and a big influence.
can you play any traditional instruments?
played jazz saxophone, and electric bass, studied throughout child hood and highschool, guitar in  bunch of bands have done any of that for like 15 years so id be pretty sloppy and slow now but the  way jazz and improv works that stick with you as a fundament. "if you like music, jazz is the  teacher" i can play the didgeridoo circular breath is great technique that other applications in yoga  and the occult arts.
do you think traditional instruments can have a meaningful role in electronic music or do they  dilute the style?
which style? unless you can use them in an interesting sonically explorational ways that melds into  the sound and style,  they are just props for ego posturing and tend to be played in tired western  conventions that is if you are some space bar ableton breakcore dude playing at a rave. but i LOVE  massive attack, muslimgauze, all manner of stuff like that...
what is your current favorite production trick?
first and foremost is, simply:  suprize. and change. i'm trying to create new and mindbending  experiences one important way of doing this taking established conventions and twisting them, using  familiar sounds in unexpected ways etc... but to real blow and reward minds takes a advanced and  subtle use of songcraft (something that definitely is getting lost in evolution and dissemination of  software) you need to cleverly lead people's expectations to play a good trick. my stuff lends  itself well to this because i write in a narrative style, as opposed to any conventional or codified  genre structure- tracks frequently end up in a different style with completely different elements  than they start with.
but if 'you are looking for a more technical or usable answer: layering sounds, one big way is layer  subharmonics on them to give them big physical impact a lot of music gets made in absence of good  subs and this entire aspect of music is neglected. very often you are tweaking and effecting a bass  sound and once it's good its not putting out low frequencies, you then mirror the with clean untouched  sine wave, usually several octaves lower... super simple but people always ask me how to do this. to get really tripped out sounds, up into recent years do a ton of Granular Synthesis and  grainbuffer effects, timestretching and pitchshifting (generally) are simple grain synth stuff. now,  with faster computers- now i'm in FFT - fast fourier - block processing, more descriptive know as  spectral bock processing, and these new additive synth, that are basically "spectral" synths.
what is the basic way that you set up ableton for live performance?
Basic... ha ha... well basically as many different dynamic and improv-oriented devices as the  processors can handle, a of instances of reaktor synths for playing, synths with a million midi  clips that with program change, a heavy duty custom modular drum machine, a bunch little glitchy rhythm  and sfx thingies that play the selves, audio tracks of loops, an audio track of loops that  constantly change, a track of fx loop that constantly change, track of long single track sequences,  some finished tracks, some acapellas. i don't use a hole zoo of vst fx any more, just some basic  live  fx racks delays and filters for fast control of the auxiliary channels dynamics. On main tracks  i use different keyboard triggered grain/buffer multi fx- these really put put the freestyle power  right in your hand. i use really old remote 25 controller, a kaos pad. and sync up what ever live  gear i have, electribes, another laptop, etc, the best one that i possessed for a spell was a nord  modular.
what is your ultimate goal musically?
long term collaborations... have taken it all so far solo that I can't do it anymore, can't see the  point. I love working with rappers and vocalists, I want to be a cyber-shamanic Timbaland to a  wiley alien Missy Eliott. i have played prolly hundreds of sets of all kinds at the dopest  underground parties i've ever been to, we threw them ourselves, totally  noncommercial (frequently  free) every other underground party i ever went into in the bay area was completely whack (at least  20 bucks a pop), after a couple of years, me and dj megabitch just gave up,, and we never lacked for  action- ha ha when i say our crew- I'm referring to big network work and community mad up pf like 8 or  so soundsystem crews + friends and family... known as the "mutant" scene. in terms of creative works  i wrote about a dozen albums in in decade or so.  I've totally actualized the fury of the hardcore  vision- there's a plateau there, handful of tracks and patches i made were just so brutal, in a soul  satisfying way, that there was no higher level. even in the producers that had inspired me.
  did dubstep hurt or help electronic music as a whole?
which scene? dubstep exploded into a scene of its own, in it's elements, they are great and they've  had good influence on the other genres. at this put since it went mainstream and codified into  monotonous lizard brain crotch grabbing, the creative minds have kept soul of evolving into a bunch of  of new styles. most people are completely unfamiliar the original style of the scene that coined the  term.
is it important to you that experimental electronic music is danceable?
in what states or country's have you performed? Which place was your favorite?
michigan, illinois, california, oregon, washington, new york, pittsburg, canada- toured with nommo  ogo and katabatik soundsystem, we drove all the from washington to alaska! favorite- definitely the  bay area, people say LA is really fun, but the only time i played down there, the party was a total  fail, on the promoter's behalf, but at least we got payed decently, while he lost a shit load of  money. since we have such a big and motivated net work of crews- at least 7 soundsystems with a huge  network of friends, djs, producers, artists, vjs, homebrewers, dedicated fans, etc... when do a large indoor event it's huge and it's off the hook on an uncommon way. beyond that we have  serious notoriety in the area, have big name to draw the public, just reputation. at the 5lowershop  wherehouse and the mini 5lower loft  up the street, there's always people that don't even know who  we are or what kind of music they might hear, they just find somehow there's a party. anyway that's  the type of event that i really get into, and people are properly experience my stuff- banging a  huge soundsytem to a sweaty 100+ (hot) freaks, more than 1/2 of the female (omg), totally bumpin-n- grinding (ha ha ha) to speedcore. so this, granted, is a very high standard, it would very hard to  get something this in scenes else where, especially the with say, hardtechno, let alone breakcore.  nonetheless  the Shows i've played elsewhere have been consistently limp, mostly due to nonattendance which garners lack of enthusiasm. i know its hard to get something cool happen and get people to  care, but i've been booked at to many "shows", along side more awesome talent, that obviously  weren't promoted to the public, and some where people didn't even bother to tell their friends! tiny broken soundsytems, I've to play on broken stereo speakers and blown guitar amps. this is just  the breakcore scene, so a lot of people have been to a good dance party, by an large oblivious  subass. or dancing at all. what i've see in modern breakcore is that all events are "shows" as  opposed to "parties". i hate the traditional concert format- every one just staring "performer" and  not talking to each other. the only thing less interesting or insightful that watch dj cueing up  track is watching a dude stare at a laptop. which why a lot of breakcore producers pretend to rock  out on a controller. its a fake performance so it is just ego stroking. i know that these cities have something cool to offer... how can they not? they are all  metropolitan enough, progressive enough for all the dj, producers, artists, queers, witch and what  not to be a connected enough community for a general night life scene... it's partially just  misfortune that i go there and i don't see it in action.

Friday, February 1, 2013

Friday, December 21, 2012

Weirdcraft's First Release: Baconhanger - Black Coven Remixes

Baconhanger - Black Coven Remixes

Name your price!
All proceeds go to Weirdcraft for label funding!

track listing:

1. Baconhanger - Black (original)

2. Baconhanger - Coven (original)

3. Baconhanger - La Messe Noire (Randomatik Blast RMX)

4. Baconhanger - Unholy Legions Beneath City Streets (Syphilis Sauna RMX)

5. Baconhanger - Black (Qixoni's Sacrificial Baby RMX)

6. Baconhanger - Are You The Devil (Ellipse Elkshow RMX)

7. Baconhanger - Black (Slagseed RMX)

8. Baconhanger - Black (666 Gangstaz Love Iz The Law RMX)

9. Baconhanger - Black (Skinny Pete Night Stalker RMX)

10. Baconhanger - Bork (Technicolor Yawn RMX)

11. Baconhanger - Black Coven (Stone Coma's Finals-Crunched RMX)

12. Baconhanger - Black Coven (Humdrum Generic RMX)


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Monday, December 17, 2012

700 Club Online Prayer Counseling

CBN Prayer Counselor: Thank you for contacting CBN. This is Hope. How may I help you?
Zach: hello hope
Zach: your name seems appropriate
Zach: i'm a muscian, and i've been watching several documentaries about the devil's influence in music
Zach: are th
ese things true?
Zach: hope, are you there?
CBN Prayer Counselor: What things are the documentaries saying? Satan is an opportunist and he will use anything that is open to him.
Zach: they talk about the lyrics and symbolism behind rock music, saying that they are used to recruit satan's army
Zach: and to get better at music, a musician might go to the crossroads and sell his soul in exchange for musical talent
Zach: do these things really work?
Zach: the beginning of route 66 begins in chicago, so a few years ago i actually went out and gave it a try
CBN Prayer Counselor: God is the Author of all good things. He gives us giftings and talents. John 10:10 The thiefs(Satan's) purpose is to steal, kill and destroy. My(God's) purpose is to give life in all its fullness.
Zach: i've noticed a great increase in the quality of the music i make, and have gained a lot of respect from other artist... is this the work of the devil, or is this just coincidence ?
CBN Prayer Counselor: Are you saying that you made a deal with the Devil so that you could become a better muscian?
Zach: yes, i did.
Zach: so far, it seems to be working. the documentaries are almost like a "how-to" guide
Zach: i've let other people know of these benefits, and have started a coven of other musicians to use this same strategy
Zach: seems like a good way to let you guys (the church) promote for us, since we are only giving you what you want
Zach: i've been playing several shows lately, and using the opportunity to perform, to influence the audience in participating in a form of the black mass
CBN Prayer Counselor: All may be well for now, but Satan is the opposite of God, and in the end will lead to eternal death and seperation from a loving Creator.
CBN Prayer Counselor: ALL ARE SEPARATED FROM GOD-Everyone who tries to live life his own way is separated from God (Rom. 3:23, Isaiah 53:6).
THE PENALTY FOR SEPARATION-We will be held accountable for the choices we make. If we choose to ignore God, we’ll face eternal separation from Him (Romans. 6:23, Heb. 9:27).
GOOD WORKS ARE NOT ENOUGH-Nothing we do, no matter how good it may be, can make us good enough to have a relationship with God without Jesus Christ (Titus 3:5, Eph. 2:8,9).
JESUS PAID THE PENALTY-God sent Jesus to be the bridge back to right standing with God. Christ’s death on the cross-paid the penalty we faced for going our own way (Rom. 5:8, 1 Peter 3:18).
MUST RECEIVE CHRIST-You must receive God’s gift by inviting Jesus into your life to be your Lord and Savior (John 1:12, Rev 3:20).
ASSURANCES OF SALVATION-Once you have done that, you can have absolute assurance that you have eternal life (1 John 5:13, John 5:24).
Zach: how do we know that either god or satan are real, and this isn't just a big joke?
Zach: right now, it just seems like a clever marketing tool
CBN Prayer Counselor: Experience....after having faith
Zach: faith is believing in something that cannot be proven
Zach: have you met the devil before?
Zach: if i'm an extreme masochist, wouldn't hell be heaven to me?
Zach: i'm trying to branch my network out, and get more people involved... collectively, we have the ability to share our occult themed music to around a thousand people
CBN Prayer Counselor: This web chat is primarily for prayer and ministry. If you do not need prayer or ministry, then I will have to let you go.
Zach: do i need a prayer?
Zach: i'm just asking questions and wondering what your viewpoint on this is
Zach: i've rescently became a youth pastor
CBN Prayer Counselor: John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
Zach: so this is my 'ministry'
Zach: aren't we all 'children of god'?
Zach: i'd like a better understanding, if you'd be willing to provide some better information, and talk to me like a person rather than spurting off bible verses at me
Zach: we're both people here, let's chat like people
Zach: have you ever not been christian?
CBN Prayer Center: Agent has left the conversation